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BeckyThane
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 06:08 pm | 1st Post |
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The following came to us via official channels this morning. Looks to me like it covers very specific areas, mostly border, and may not affect cruisers on W. Caribbean or Mexican Riviera cruises, with the exception of those transiting through Tijuana.
On 14 Apr 08, the U.S. State Department has issued a travel alert to all U.S. citizens traveling to certain areas of Mexico which include Tijuana, Nogales, Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Acuna, Piedras Negras and Raynosa/Matamoros. Due to combat violence, the Government of Mexico has deployed Police and Military troops to various parts of the country. Recent fighting between the Mexican Army/Police Force and heavily armed narcotics Cartels has escalated to levels that can be construed as out of control. Armed robberies and carjackings have significantly increased during this time. Public shootouts have occurred during daylight hours and in some cases the assailants have worn police or military uniforms. In 2007, dozens of U.S. citizens have been kidnapped and/or murdered in Tijuana. USNORTHCOM has set the FPCON as BRAVO for Mexico. Therefore the U.S. State Department urges travelers to restrict travel to these areas, unless absolutely necessary.
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 06:47 pm | 2nd Post |
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| Oh wow. Thanks for the info!
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 11:58 pm | 3rd Post |
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Very serious!  Thanks Becky!
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Catnip
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 02:35 am | 4th Post |
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Thanks for the info! I had not heard about this.
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Srutko1226
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 03:04 am | 5th Post |
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Don't let it stop you from going to other parts of Mexico. It's a big country.
Just stay away from the drug avenue to these United States.(Isn't that a shame?)
We were on Cozumel and I felt safer than when I am home.
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:04 am | 6th Post |
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Srutko1226 wrote: Don't let it stop you from going to other parts of Mexico. It's a big country.
Just stay away from the drug avenue to these United States.(Isn't that a shame?)
We were on Cozumel and I felt safer than when I am home.
I know what you mean. I also felt safe there.
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:07 am | 7th Post |
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What else is new? This is very typical of Mexico and has been for at least a few
years. There were shootouts in broad daylight in 2006, with a bullet striking
a Canadian tourist. this happened in Acapulco. there are assassinations a lot
down there. 20 years ago when we first started going there it didn't seem
to be a lot of fighting like it is now. Apparently parts of Mexico are the
"new" Columbia.
My parents refused to get off the ship in Acapulco last year. DH and I, as well
as Mr. Dawson, and several others said "screw it" and decided to live on the
edge
It was QUITE a different experience visiting Acapulco in 2007 versus 1986 and
1989. It seemed as if every single business establishment had an armed
guard outside toting what looked like an AK-47 --
I've heard Tijuana has become out of control ... that is just horrible for
the poor innocents who have to live in these conditions.
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mrdawson
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:12 am | 8th Post |
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| Your right DanaTijuana has been a war zone for 4 or 5 years now...last weeks shootout with the drug czars goons during the day left like 10 people dead and something like 1500 bullet casings found afterward...
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:16 am | 9th Post |
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mrdawson wrote: Your right DanaTijuana has been a war zone for 4 or 5 years now...last weeks shootout with the drug czars goons during the day left like 10 people dead and something like 1500 bullet casings found afterward...
If thats the case there needs to be a travel advisory to downtown Birmingham that shit happens all the time!
BTW 1500 casings with only 10 kills???????? Those guys need some target practice!
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:19 am | 10th Post |
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Might also explain why Mexico has not been a military threat in some time now!
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:20 am | 11th Post |
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mrdawson wrote: Your right DanaTijuana has been a war zone for 4 or 5 years now...last weeks shootout with the drug czars goons during the day left like 10 people dead and something like 1500 bullet casings found afterward...
ONLY 1500 bullet casings? Do we hear 1505?
What a damned cesspool. I went to Tijuana in 1979 for a day. It was actually
a bus "tour" from Disneyland. WTF? My mother put me in harm's way. Bad
mama. That was in the days when it was nothing but a bunch of cardboard
homes on the way to the main city. it was very, very sad. apparently
it's built up -- guess it's got that big-city feel replete with all the gang
violence too!
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mrdawson
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:49 am | 12th Post |
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elizabethtaylor wrote: mrdawson wrote: Your right DanaTijuana has been a war zone for 4 or 5 years now...last weeks shootout with the drug czars goons during the day left like 10 people dead and something like 1500 bullet casings found afterward...
ONLY 1500 bullet casings? Do we hear 1505?
What a damned cesspool. I went to Tijuana in 1979 for a day. It was actually
a bus "tour" from Disneyland. WTF? My mother put me in harm's way. Bad
mama. That was in the days when it was nothing but a bunch of cardboard
homes on the way to the main city. it was very, very sad. apparently
it's built up -- guess it's got that big-city feel replete with all the gang
violence too!
I went a bunch of times when I was in the Navy! Don't remember much and I don't have anything uncurable from it so its all good! 
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