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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 07:29 pm | 1st Post |
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Well I have researched this on the net til I'm blue, and here's the skinny.
Outside of tram or taxi to the top of the rock, caves, a pub or two, and maybe a dolphin excursion there's not much to do there?????
Anyone else with ideas?
The WWII caves, look interesting, and I imagine the views from the top are wonderful. Shopping is duty free?? There are a few hotels, and an airport. Driving is difficult due to parking?
Sight seeing in Spain to the east and west of Gibraltor looks more favourable. The ferry across to Tangiers is an option.
The GB used is NOT the same GB as Britain uses.
Very easy to get married there. The monkeys can be nasty. I wonder what the swimming is like there? The beaches look rocky.
So my plan is hit the rock and a pub, and enjoy the ship for the afternoon???
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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 08:25 pm | 2nd Post |
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It is a very short distance from there to the White city of Marbella and if you go to the west, the Sherry region of Spain. We are going to be exploring this area in January. The Costa del Sol is the beach and golf section of Spain, so you should be able to find some very nice beaches just off the rock. I imagine we will do Gilbraltar too while we are there, so if we do, I will let you know what we find.
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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 08:31 pm | 3rd Post |
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Marbella sounds good. I'm not sure if I read a blog somewhere that is warning people of thefts crime etc there, or maybe it was Malaga?? (crime everywhere in my opionion). Trying to figure out how far Rhonda would be.
We sail to Casablanca then Cadiz after, so sherry shopping will be in Cadiz
Speaking of Sherry..............................
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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 08:45 pm | 4th Post |
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| I think it is Malaga. Malaga is a big city. Marbella is a resort city. Huge yachts, golf courses, shopping and restaurants. The old city in Marbella is suppossed to be fab.
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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 09:07 pm | 5th Post |
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wasn't sherry, it was port... I don't normally drink it, but dusted around it, and thought "Mmmm, maybe I will". It's 24 yrs old, actually smooth, not to bad at all.
I'm more interested in Spain too. Will try to spend a few months there each year when retired, or Portugal. It's really cheap, and geared for that. Probably Faro or Porto Portugal.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18th, 2006 04:48 pm | 6th Post |
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Here's what I've got so far on Gibraltor and Casablanca:
- Gibraltor (see Casablanca for weather)
1) Bus is very inexpensive (around 1GBP per person for the entire route): City BusesThere is only one fare on local bus services regardless of the length or duration of your journey.Routes 2,3,4 y 9 are operated by:Gibraltar Bus Company
Tel: (+350) 47622
Fax: (+350) 47626
E-mail: info@gibraltarbuscompany.gi Route 10 is operated by:
Calypso Transport
Fares:Adult Single: £0.60 Adult Return : £0.90
Adult Day Card: £1.50
Senior Citizens (check age)
Single : £0.30 Return : £0.50
Day Card : £0.80
2) Gibraltar Tour (official and all points must be included)
a) TOUR START POINTS
The Frontier,
Casemates Square,
John Mackintosh Square,
Trafalgar Cemetery,
The cruise liner disembarkation point,
and the Coach Park.
Here are some of the exciting stops in the 'Official Rock Tour':
1. The Frontier (Stop optional)
Closed by the Spanish Government in 1969, the Frontier reopened without restrictions on the 5th February 1985, and is now crossed by over four million visitors each year.
2. Catalan Bay (5-minute stop)
From your panoramic vantage point you will see the delightful beach and village of Catalan Bay - home to some of the original Genoese settlers in the eighteenth century and a haven for Spaniards fleeing from Napoleon's invasion of Spain in the nineteenth century.
3. Watercatchments, East Side (5-minute stop)
Some of the most impressive faces of the Rock are on its eastern side. There is no natural source of water on the Rock other than a few wells; the sheets above the road were once used to collect rainwater, which was then stored in huge reservoirs inside the Rock. These sheets overlie an impressive prehistoric sand dune.
4. Lighthouse (5-minute stop)
Situated on the southernmost tip of Gibraltar, the lighthouse at Europa is the only one outside the United Kingdom, which is regulated by Trinity House. Standing 49-metres (156 feet) above High Water, its loom can be seen a distance of 37-kilometres (17 miles).
5. Upper Rock Nature Reserve
5.1 Jews' Gate (5-minute stop)
This spot commands spectacular views of The magnificent Rif Mountains of Morocco and the towering Jebel Musa, the second Pillar of Hercules. Beyond, across the Atlantic, there is nothing between you and America!
5.2. Saint Michael's Cave (30-minute stop)
One of Europe's most dramatic natural grottoes, the cave is a unique subterranean auditorium, now a special venue for concerts and other live performances
5.3. O'Hara's Battery (15-minute stop; optional - summer season only
See the most outstanding views from the very top of the Rock and explore the complex machinery associated with the large 9.2-inch gun, which still commands the Rock's summit.
5.4. Apes' Den (10-minute stop)
Perhaps the best known of Gibraltar's attractions is the Barbary Ape. Friendly, charming and highly inquisitive, the apes have lived on the Rock for over two centuries. A visit to their den, high on the Rock, is a must.
5.5. Military Heritage Centre (5-minute stop; optional)
Housed in Princess Caroline's Battery you can see artefacts of military history within this complex.
5.6. Great Siege Tunnels (15-minute stop; optional)
Excavated during the Great Siege of 1779-83 to permit the mounting of a gun on the North Face of the Rock, they were later extended to provide an impregnable line of artillery.
5.7. Gibraltar, a City under Siege (10-minute stop; optional)
The exhibition is within the oldest buildings on the Rock. It includes original eighteenth-century graffiti and an old water system.
5.8. Lime Kiln (5-minute stop; optional)
The last remaining lime kiln on the Rock, which dates to the late nineteenth century.
5.9. Moorish Castle (15-minute stop; optional)
The fourteenth-century Tower of Homage is a survivor of countless sieges and a testament to a once larger complex, which reached Casemates on the waterfront.
6. The Gibraltar Museum (20-minute stop or start/finish)
See under one roof unique story of Gibraltar with a specially produced film and many galleries full of original artefacts, old prints and photographs. Take a tour through time, from the origins of the Rock 200-million years ago to the Gibraltarians of today and its natural history. In the basement is the best-preserved Moorish Bath House in Europe.
7. Nelson's Anchorage (15-minute stop; optional)
See the unique Victorian Super Gun located close to the site where Nelson's body was brought ashore after the Battle of Trafalgar.
8. Parson's Lodge (15-minute stop; optional)
On the opposite side of Rosia Bay is this historical battery which dominates the entrance to the Bay.
9. Alameda Botanical Gardens (20 minute stop; optional)
Visit these attractive nineteenth-century gardens and relax after a day's shopping or sightseeing.
- Casablanca (65 and very little rain)
1) From CC thread: There will be a line of taxis at the pier that you can hire for the day. They are not looking for the quick ride. The walk to the exit is pretty long. However you can start to walk and one of the ones coming in will turnaround and take you to the exit for $2. The exit to the pier is right at the train station. from there you can get a train every half hour to Rabat. The station there is very central in the new town. A good guide book as well as easy to use taxis will get you by there. It is perfectally safe. Central Casa is also very easy to walk around in. The medina is nothing to speak of but the city has a great collectin of old French style buildings. You will need a taxi to the Hassan Mosque. You must stop there. There are times os the day you can enter.
a) Rabat is considered more historical; Casablanca sounds a little like Athens
2) A guided tour by car s/b around $60 for two for the day. VERY well recommended: Abdel: tangiertour@yahoo.co.uk
Direct Phone: 0021268702424
a) Ship’s shuttle is expensive: $15 pp; take a cab to the Tourist Information Office in the town Centre
b) They can arrange an English speaking tour for around 40 Euros / dollars
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Posted: Tue Sep 19th, 2006 01:35 am | 7th Post |
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Peggy old girl.......... keep those fingers searching. Great info.
Where and when are you going?
We're doing Princess Grand in June (Rome to London)
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Posted: Tue Sep 19th, 2006 04:14 am | 8th Post |
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| The Millie on 4/21, then to a car show at Stoneleigh near Coventry on 5/6 - 5/7. Your ports are similar to ours.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2007 08:27 pm | 9th Post |
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I love just walking through the streets of Gibraltar - very much like London in a way. 
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Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2007 03:08 am | 10th Post |
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Didn't do what I said we would............
We hit the pavement the moment we stepped off the ship (shuttle is 5$ eachway from ship into shopping area) DH cheap, so we walked.
It was hot as the hinges of hell.
About a 30 min fast walk from ship to RockTram. There are tons of shops past the town square. (its' wall to wall stores, reminded me of St Maarten)
Tram offers two prices for tour. Most expensive is 26E (we didn't have any pounds)it includes everything. The tram up takes about 10 minutes. You can walk just about anywhere on the rock.
This is all my opinion.... the apes are cute and boring, the caves are dead and beginning to crumble. It is slippery inside, be careful, it's boring too. The historical stuff is ok only. The trails are almost non existant with nothing to see. Getting back onto the tram from the hiking trails is terrifying.
There are tons of cars or vans up top that have humped up private tours. They can't get back down til someone makes a move, but it looks like they have this worked out amongst themselves, so you may have to wait for awhile to get back down.
The view is awesome.
Shopping is not a bargain.
It is a very busy area, filled with car exhaust. I didn't enjoy the food or booze.
And I would never go back. I've seen it done it and got the T shirt.
JMHO
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 03:46 pm | 11th Post |
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We caught the bus. As you walk away from the terminal and down the street (passing all the pax waiting for the taxi shuttles) stay on the right side of the street. The #4 picks up there, and we took it all over.
Here's a link to the bus routes, but they aren't according to a map; just bus stops. You can see the #4 goes to Europa Point, downtown, and all over. It also has a stop at the tram to up to the top.
http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/hol/HowToGetAround/Bus Route Map.pdf
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Posted: Fri Aug 3rd, 2007 05:04 am | 12th Post |
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seawitches wrote: Didn't do what I said we would............
We hit the pavement the moment we stepped off the ship (shuttle is 5$ eachway from ship into shopping area) DH cheap, so we walked.
It was hot as the hinges of hell.
About a 30 min fast walk from ship to RockTram. There are tons of shops past the town square. (its' wall to wall stores, reminded me of St Maarten)
Tram offers two prices for tour. Most expensive is 26E (we didn't have any pounds)it includes everything. The tram up takes about 10 minutes. You can walk just about anywhere on the rock.
This is all my opinion.... the apes are cute and boring, the caves are dead and beginning to crumble. It is slippery inside, be careful, it's boring too. The historical stuff is ok only. The trails are almost non existant with nothing to see. Getting back onto the tram from the hiking trails is terrifying.
There are tons of cars or vans up top that have humped up private tours. They can't get back down til someone makes a move, but it looks like they have this worked out amongst themselves, so you may have to wait for awhile to get back down.
The view is awesome.
Shopping is not a bargain.
It is a very busy area, filled with car exhaust. I didn't enjoy the food or booze.
And I would never go back. I've seen it done it and got the T shirt.
JMHO
Gibraltar sucked, Sheila. I thought our bus was gonna get run over by an airliner
since we had to cross the airstrip. Went in 1991; would never go back.
Those monkeys were aggressive too
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