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Posted: Wed Nov 28th, 2007 11:33 pm | 1st Post |
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It's that time of year..... see the Century has Norwalk. 
Almost forgot............ get your flu shot too!!! Sorry folks, I don't have access to anymore illegal ones.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 12:52 am | 2nd Post |
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| I carry the hand sanitizer with me and we have some sitting in the middle of our department for everyone to use. Don't want to get the crud now! Three of the eight people in my department are or have been sick in the last couple of weeks already.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 01:29 am | 3rd Post |
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I of all people know this BUT..... I did get slightly sick from my flu shot this year.... (said very quietly)
Statistically the experts say "poo poo that doesn't happen", but I did have a slight fever, aching, and felt like a MAC truck had hit me, only for 24 hrs tho.
Probably all psychosomatic cause I didn't arrange or give the shot
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seawitches wrote: I of all people know this BUT..... I did get slightly sick from my flu shot this year.... (said very quietly)
Statistically the experts say "poo poo that doesn't happen", but I did have a slight fever, aching, and felt like a MAC truck had hit me, only for 24 hrs tho.
Probably all psychosomatic cause I didn't arrange or give the shot
Ya know... you all can tell me how there is nothing medical to support this... blahblahblah........
But I have had the full blown Flu TWICE in my adult life - the throwing up, high fever, etc. flu....
AND those are the ONLY two years I have gotten a damned flu shot!!
Conspiracy??
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 04:34 pm | 5th Post |
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| I have never had a flu shot. Don't intend on getting them. I have the flu once in my adult life.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 05:51 pm | 6th Post |
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TheWog wrote: I have never had a flu shot. Don't intend on getting them. I have the flu once in my adult life.
AMEN, brother! No shots for me, either. I think I've had the flu once or twice, but that's it.
And I wash my hands so often, the skin on my knuckles is cracking and splitting.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 12:59 am | 7th Post |
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I've never had a flu shot in my life. Don't know how many times I had the flu in the past, but in recent years, I haven't had so much as a cold. 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 04:36 am | 8th Post |
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Brangwen wrote: seawitches wrote: I of all people know this BUT..... I did get slightly sick from my flu shot this year.... (said very quietly)
Statistically the experts say "poo poo that doesn't happen", but I did have a slight fever, aching, and felt like a MAC truck had hit me, only for 24 hrs tho.
Probably all psychosomatic cause I didn't arrange or give the shot
Ya know... you all can tell me how there is nothing medical to support this... blahblahblah........
But I have had the full blown Flu TWICE in my adult life - the throwing up, high fever, etc. flu....
AND those are the ONLY two years I have gotten a damned flu shot!!
Conspiracy??
I have a compromised immune system (SLE) and have been advised not to get the flu shot. I wouldn't even if I could. What ever happened to developing natural immunities?
You can get ill from any sort of vaccination. The great majority of vaccines are made from attenuated strains of the virus they're intended to prevent. How can one say "Oh, you can't get sick from vaccines" when you are having the disease injected into your body? You sometimes have to wonder about those medical 'professionals'...sheesh... It IS a conspiracy I swear!! :D
I 'fired' my kids' first pediatrician when she tried to tell me that there was no way they could get sick from their vaccines. Small chance, but it can and does happen. My daughter got the chicken pox from the Varicella vaccine. Unfortunately it's required for school entrance here otherwise I would have bypassed that one.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 02:26 pm | 9th Post |
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| Doesn't the flu shot only guess at what strains they might be seeing this year. We will vaccinate you from A, B and C, but watch out for D and E and Bird.... those are bad ones that you won't be protected from. I'm just not sure about this whole flu shot thing.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 03:39 pm | 10th Post |
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luvmytbear wrote: What ever happened to developing natural immunities?
You can get ill from any sort of vaccination. The great majority of vaccines are made from attenuated strains of the virus they're intended to prevent. How can one say "Oh, you can't get sick from vaccines" when you are having the disease injected into your body?
I agree totally. I have never had a shot or vaccine in my entire life. Never had any childhood immunizations. My mother would write a note every year that I was NOT to have any shots by the school nurse.
I had measles, mumps & chicken pox as a child with no ill effects, either.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 11:23 pm | 11th Post |
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Catnip wrote: luvmytbear wrote: What ever happened to developing natural immunities?
You can get ill from any sort of vaccination. The great majority of vaccines are made from attenuated strains of the virus they're intended to prevent. How can one say "Oh, you can't get sick from vaccines" when you are having the disease injected into your body?
I agree totally. I have never had a shot or vaccine in my entire life. Never had any childhood immunizations. My mother would write a note every year that I was NOT to have any shots by the school nurse.
I had measles, mumps & chicken pox as a child with no ill effects, either.
I know I had the chicken pox, not sure about measles, and no on the mumps. The only reason my kids were vaccinated was because, like Lora, they were required by the schools. I don't take any kind of medication other than an occasional Advil and the meds prescribed by my doctor. I rarely get sick.
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c6e1d7"They say people are too dependent these days on medication to keep them healthy. If they let their natural immunities build up, they might not need all those extra meds. It's a conspiracy by the big drug companies I tell ya!
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 02:27 pm | 12th Post |
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NICE. Real NICE.
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/thousands-of-kids-get-dud-vaccines/20071204215709990001
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 02:31 pm | 13th Post |
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No shots for me and I don't plan to get one.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 07:24 pm | 14th Post |
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Since 2000 the CDC has pushed state health departments to visit clinics and check their refrigerators. Most states require clinics to use refrigerators with reliable thermometers that can be monitored, and staff members must know what to do when temperatures are above or below the proper range, Rodewald said.
this is very true up here, we have overpaid nurses who do this job 5 days per week, but there are big gaps and loop holes to this, so is that vaccine in that fridge stored properly????? probably not 100% of the time.
Long term care homes do temps of fridge 2x per day, but I doubt a doctors office does it monthly if at all. Vaccines are BIG bucks and if spoiled, a huge cost to the tax payers!
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 11:42 pm | 15th Post |
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RCIcruizer wrote: No shots for me and I don't plan to get one.
DId you have any as a child?
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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 01:57 pm | 16th Post |
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Catnip wrote: RCIcruizer wrote: No shots for me and I don't plan to get one.
DId you have any as a child?
just tequila to make him "sleepy" when his parents were sick of him. 
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 12:33 am | 17th Post |
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| I've been using soap and hand sanitizer on my hands like crazy this week. I hate being sick with a cold and having to work. Seems to be helping since my cold symptoms are getting less and less each day. Now I just need to find a good lotion for my poor chapped nose.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:03 pm | 18th Post |
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| Holy Moly, reading on the news last night that the UK has 3 million cases of Norwalk. That's alot of vomit.... YIKES.... It's heading this way..........
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:29 pm | 19th Post |
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seawitches wrote: Holy Moly, reading on the news last night that the UK has 3 million cases of Norwalk. That's alot of vomit.... YIKES.... It's heading this way..........
I saw that! YE GODS! Can you imagine being on a plane for a 7-hr flight overseas? 
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 04:05 pm | 20th Post |
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seawitches wrote: Holy Moly, reading on the news last night that the UK has 3 million cases of Norwalk. That's alot of vomit.... YIKES.... It's heading this way..........
That's a huge number!
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Posted: Mon Jan 14th, 2008 07:01 am | 21st Post |
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| just think what the 3 queens are bringing into New York Harbour.....
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 07:55 pm | 22nd Post |
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While I was on my Brilliance of the Seas cruise a couple weeks ago, I was very surprised to not see the hand sanitizers out in the Windjammer Cafe and at the entrance to the main dining room, like I saw the past 2 years.
I asked someone about it, and they said something like "it was drying people's hands out too bad", and they had removed them.
 I'd rather have dry hands than an outbreak of Norovirus.............
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 09:11 pm | 23rd Post |
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 09:22 pm | 24th Post |
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What do you think about it, Becky? I can't imagine that if indeed that stuff was helping keep viruses down, why they would have discontinued it.
Maybe they found out it didn't really help after all??????
Any idea's?
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 09:53 pm | 25th Post |
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My assumption was that they had either gotten lazy or cheap. 
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