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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 08:43 pm | 176th Post |
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O, I understand completely. I am sure she hates my a$$. I don't hate her; I just think what happened was avoidable and sad.
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 09:02 pm | 177th Post |
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dwrist wrote: xpcdoojk wrote: I don't think she would be scary or anything. She just wanted to have a cruise forum of her own, and when individuals do what individuals do which is exercise their own liberty she tried to manipulate it so that it could remain a perfect little fantasy. I truly was angry at the time, but in retrospect I feel sad for her.
Ok now this makes sense of some of the reasons why CTT was started and continues to be run the way it is. JC, maybe this little phrase of yours should be shared with more on the CTT better thread.
You Norweenies are lucky you have only had a single and highly predictable $hitstorm. The CC darkside "You Vill Do Vhat Ve Vant Or You Vill Be Punished" $hitstorm. The founders and many of the charter members have been trying to get this particular experiment right for a long long time. I have lived thru more than one major $hitstorms. All involved horribly hurt feelings and hard feelings, one that completely caused the meltdown of an entire forum, and another that basically froze the growth of a forum to a tiny fringe forum. When this forum began it was started with a basic understanding that we were not going to dwell on the past failures and the recriminations that were felt on all sides. I like to think we took the highroad, and we didn't speak of these other forums and people in public. If you note my signature it says two things: 1 the o-crew which was the first rebellion from CC that I think took place in either 2002 or 2003, and the second about let's get it right this time which is my statement about the past. Some of us from $hitstorm #2 that suffered together like Steph and I through it, and she for far longer than I, feel a bit free to discuss the unpleasant past since the plug was officially pulled on that experiment. That said. I still don't feel comfortable stating names and deeds because while they failed they tried, and in the case of the second actually had a chance until the ego got involved. I can't tell you how difficult it has been here to keep ego out of it. I, actually, am very outspoken (very, very, very) however because I love this experiment I control myself here.
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 09:28 pm | 178th Post |
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xpcdoojk wrote: because I love this experiment I control myself here.
Hmmmm... I think I'll dwell on those words for a while. Wiser words have ne'er been spoke. 
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 09:28 pm | 179th Post |
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xpcdoojk wrote: dwrist wrote: xpcdoojk wrote: I don't think she would be scary or anything. She just wanted to have a cruise forum of her own, and when individuals do what individuals do which is exercise their own liberty she tried to manipulate it so that it could remain a perfect little fantasy. I truly was angry at the time, but in retrospect I feel sad for her.
Ok now this makes sense of some of the reasons why CTT was started and continues to be run the way it is. JC, maybe this little phrase of yours should be shared with more on the CTT better thread.
You Norweenies are lucky you have only had a single and highly predictable $hitstorm. The CC darkside "You Vill Do Vhat Ve Vant Or You Vill Be Punished" $hitstorm. The founders and many of the charter members have been trying to get this particular experiment right for a long long time. I have lived thru more than one major $hitstorms. All involved horribly hurt feelings and hard feelings, one that completely caused the meltdown of an entire forum, and another that basically froze the growth of a forum to a tiny fringe forum. When this forum began it was started with a basic understanding that we were not going to dwell on the past failures and the recriminations that were felt on all sides. I like to think we took the highroad, and we didn't speak of these other forums and people in public. If you note my signature it says two things: 1 the o-crew which was the first rebellion from CC that I think took place in either 2002 or 2003, and the second about let's get it right this time which is my statement about the past. Some of us from $hitstorm #2 that suffered together like Steph and I through it, and she for far longer than I, feel a bit free to discuss the unpleasant past since the plug was officially pulled on that experiment. That said. I still don't feel comfortable stating names and deeds because while they failed they tried, and in the case of the second actually had a chance until the ego got involved. I can't tell you how difficult it has been here to keep ego out of it. I, actually, am very outspoken (very, very, very) however because I love this experiment I control myself here.
I was talking more of the philosophy of the context of your post. No naming or criticism of other boards/people. See the red.
I say again, Thanks for all the hard work, thinking, discussion and effort that you and others have put in to the start-up and of maintaining the status of "a damn good board". I think your post puts into perspective those standards, regulations and the aim of the board.
Does any of this make sense? Or am I being a woman that can't make her thought known? 
Last edited on Fri May 9th, 2008 09:29 pm by dwrist
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 09:36 pm | 180th Post |
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Yes, I understood you, but I told you I tend to talk to much. I was just trying to give a little context. On the other thread the noobs pointed out that there is a lot of cliques here and again I was just providing context.
We need to put more structure and rules in place or we need to exercise maturity and restraint. I am trying to keep the positive thought that we can do it without becoming another place with a long list of rules. I really think that we can, and I am going to fight to keep it simple.
Here are the rules be nice and if you can't you may be selectively spanked, but just because a single person does something unpleasant I hope we never have to punish all of the members. Because when we get to the legalistic level that most forums get to then the community is gone. Life ain't fair, but if you try you can survive and thrive. If you don't strive to try is it my problem if you die? 
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 09:49 pm | 181st Post |
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xpcdoojk wrote: Yes, I understood you, but I told you I tend to talk to much. I was just trying to give a little context. On the other thread the noobs pointed out that there is a lot of cliques here and again I was just providing context.
We need to put more structure and rules in place or we need to exercise maturity and restraint. I am trying to keep the positive thought that we can do it without becoming another place with a long list of rules. I really think that we can, and I am going to fight to keep it simple.
Here are the rules be nice and if you can't you may be selectively spanked, but just because a single person does something unpleasant I hope we never have to punish all of the members. Because when we get to the legalistic level that most forums get to then the community is gone. Life ain't fair, but if you try you can survive and thrive. If you don't strive to try is it my problem if you die?
Couldn't agree more and no its not our problem if others choose to ignore rules and hence cause their own death.
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Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 02:21 am | 182nd Post |
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Tonight was the FIRST time since Monday that I was even able to get onto CTT. It's been the total white screen of death for me since the beginning of the week.
This is on 3 different computers and checking periodically (ok like every hour - I have no life) through out the day at home and work.
I hope I don't get kicked off again. I had problems then it was better Monday and then WHAM, total access denied. I felt like I was BANNED from CTT.  
Hope that nightmare is over. 
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Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 04:04 am | 183rd Post |
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| Glad to see you're back with us Grace! Some people are still having some problems and we are working on getting the responsible party to get their problem fixed so ours will be fixed!
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Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 04:52 am | 184th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: Glad to see you're back with us Grace! Some people are still having some problems and we are working on getting the responsible party to get their problem fixed so ours will be fixed!
Thanks Deb!
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Posted: Sun May 11th, 2008 04:26 am | 185th Post |
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What? You can't get it up with an AVITAR like that?
You poor boy!
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Posted: Sun May 11th, 2008 04:28 am | 186th Post |
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gsc500 wrote:
This is on 3 different computers and checking periodically (ok like every hour - I have no life) through out the day at home and work.
LMAO!!!!!! I was the same way when I was off for almost 4 days!! I was going nuts!
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Posted: Sun May 11th, 2008 02:20 pm | 187th Post |
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shoreguy wrote: TydeOne wrote: Still can't bring up the site at home...have cleared cookies, temp. internet files, etc., no go.
I am back online. It does not mean the problem is fixed. I believe there are still some blocks of IP addresses that are being blockede thanks to Dave (ristallnight).
The key was to reset while disconnected from the eth cables to flush all the IPs. I had reset everything severaal times but never rebooted disconnected.
Hey, Jim... Comcast always makes me feel kinda foolish when they turn out to be correct, so just asking again....
Did you disconnect your eth cables, reset your modem, reset your router, then plug in the cables and reset the modem and router again?
Just a thought!!! :
I've passed this info about disconnecting and resetting on to one member who is still having problems getting in. Thanks for posting this!
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 02:46 pm | 188th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: shoreguy wrote: TydeOne wrote: Still can't bring up the site at home...have cleared cookies, temp. internet files, etc., no go.
I am back online. It does not mean the problem is fixed. I believe there are still some blocks of IP addresses that are being blockede thanks to Dave (ristallnight).
The key was to reset while disconnected from the eth cables to flush all the IPs. I had reset everything severaal times but never rebooted disconnected.
Hey, Jim... Comcast always makes me feel kinda foolish when they turn out to be correct, so just asking again....
Did you disconnect your eth cables, reset your modem, reset your router, then plug in the cables and reset the modem and router again?
Just a thought!!! :
I've passed this info about disconnecting and resetting on to one member who is still having problems getting in. Thanks for posting this!
Tried this over the weekend...didn't help, still can't bring up site at home!
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 12:35 am | 189th Post |
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WTF is going on here....Deb sent me some cyrptic notes on fixing this from home but I have no clue what she meant and I still can't get on...is this EVER gonna get fixed????????????????????????? so I can log on from home???????????????????????????????
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 12:47 am | 190th Post |
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| Apparently not, brother. I have heard that some drastic steps may be taken by the end of the month. It has been working for me perfectly after a 4 day time out. It sucks. It will get fixed somehow. Sorry dude.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 12:56 am | 191st Post |
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xpcdoojk wrote: Apparently not, brother. I have heard that some drastic steps may be taken by the end of the month. It has been working for me perfectly after a 4 day time out. It sucks. It will get fixed somehow. Sorry dude.
Well that just sux JC....on another note..for around $700 you can fly in my MIL and she can cook you a whole freezer full of German food! :breakfast:
And since she can't speak English you won't even have to talk to her! Unless you spreakin de deusch! Did I speel that right?
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 01:11 am | 192nd Post |
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| No, but I understood what you said better than I will your MIL.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 01:36 am | 193rd Post |
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mrdawson wrote: WTF is going on here....Deb sent me some cyrptic notes on fixing this from home but I have no clue what she meant and I still can't get on...is this EVER gonna get fixed????????????????????????? so I can log on from home???????????????????????????????
Sorry Mikey. I tried! Last edited on Tue May 13th, 2008 01:36 am by hstrybuf
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 04:20 pm | 194th Post |
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 01:42 pm | 195th Post |
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| Still can't get on from home puter. Anyone have any new info?...anything new to try?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 03:24 pm | 196th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: mrdawson wrote: WTF is going on here....Deb sent me some cyrptic notes on fixing this from home but I have no clue what she meant and I still can't get on...is this EVER gonna get fixed????????????????????????? so I can log on from home???????????????????????????????
Sorry Mikey. I tried!
If you did not understand let me know I can provide more details. No idea why it worked but it did. You have to disconnect your cable mdem from the network (remove ethernet cable that goes to the cable company from the modem) reboot (powerdown and power up) the modem while it is disconnected. Power it down again and reconnect and power up. Then bring up your router (if you have one) and finally power up your PC.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:47 pm | 197th Post |
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1:47 p.m. - seems to be happening only with the F-U thread.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:51 pm | 198th Post |
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TheWog wrote: 1:47 p.m. - seems to be happening only with the F-U thread.
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Yep!..I have the same error occasionally.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 07:23 pm | 199th Post |
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| well it is approaching the unwieldly size that seems to be a constant problem with the forum. Maybe you should start an FU thread part deux. Then we can have someone lock the old one.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:24 pm | 200th Post |
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shoreguy wrote: hstrybuf wrote: mrdawson wrote: WTF is going on here....Deb sent me some cyrptic notes on fixing this from home but I have no clue what she meant and I still can't get on...is this EVER gonna get fixed????????????????????????? so I can log on from home???????????????????????????????
Sorry Mikey. I tried!
If you did not understand let me know I can provide more details. No idea why it worked but it did. You have to disconnect your cable mdem from the network (remove ethernet cable that goes to the cable company from the modem) reboot (powerdown and power up) the modem while it is disconnected. Power it down again and reconnect and power up. Then bring up your router (if you have one) and finally power up your PC.
Tried this again tonight and it worked...I'm in!
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