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Posted: Sat Jan 27th, 2007 06:07 pm | 1st Post |
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While I'm not a fan of walkie-talkies, it seems to work for some parents. I prefer the method of having regular check in times and letting the parents know if the kids are going to be changing their location on the ship. Same goes for the parents communicating with the kids.
It's past midnight. Do you know where your teens are? Hopefully the answer is yes, whether you're at home or on a cruise ship. But sometimes, vacationing parents let their guard down.
After all, parents tell me, the kids are in the middle of the ocean and can't go anywhere. They can't drink because their ship charge cards are tagged to indicate that they're under 21 and can't buy liquor. How can teens possibly get into trouble?
Easily—just like at home. "You'd just find someone who is over 21 to buy you drinks," said one college student who has been on cruises with his family. "The drinking age is more an inconvenience than a deterrent."
http://www.smartertravel.com/travel-advice/Keeping-kids-safe-cruise.html?id=1231582
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Posted: Sun Jan 28th, 2007 11:47 pm | 3rd Post |
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I don't think a lot of parents really think about the dangers on a cruise ship! In addition
to underage drinking, there are PLENTY of dark, deserted areas on the ship which could prove dangerous for kids out there prowling alone at night.
2 years ago, I was out walking around the ship before I went to bed. It was just after midnight. I was walking up on the deck above the pool deck...........there was a crowd of pre-teens/teens hanging out in deck chairs laughing and horsing around. 2-3 of the boys grabbed a smaller kid and lifted him up on the rail like they were going to toss him overboard!  Holy shit! They could have easily lost their grip on him, and overboard he would have gone! They just don't need to be out after midnight, alone and unsupervised. PERIOD. IT's way too dangerous.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29th, 2007 05:03 pm | 4th Post |
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Catnip wrote: I don't think a lot of parents really think about the dangers on a cruise ship! In addition
to underage drinking, there are PLENTY of dark, deserted areas on the ship which could prove dangerous for kids out there prowling alone at night.
2 years ago, I was out walking around the ship before I went to bed. It was just after midnight. I was walking up on the deck above the pool deck...........there was a crowd of pre-teens/teens hanging out in deck chairs laughing and horsing around. 2-3 of the boys grabbed a smaller kid and lifted him up on the rail like they were going to toss him overboard! Holy shit! They could have easily lost their grip on him, and overboard he would have gone! They just don't need to be out after midnight, alone and unsupervised. PERIOD. IT's way too dangerous.
That's my biggest fear. The screwing around and messing up. That's crazy.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29th, 2007 07:08 pm | 5th Post |
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TheWog wrote: Catnip wrote: I don't think a lot of parents really think about the dangers on a cruise ship! In addition
to underage drinking, there are PLENTY of dark, deserted areas on the ship which could prove dangerous for kids out there prowling alone at night.
2 years ago, I was out walking around the ship before I went to bed. It was just after midnight. I was walking up on the deck above the pool deck...........there was a crowd of pre-teens/teens hanging out in deck chairs laughing and horsing around. 2-3 of the boys grabbed a smaller kid and lifted him up on the rail like they were going to toss him overboard! Holy shit! They could have easily lost their grip on him, and overboard he would have gone! They just don't need to be out after midnight, alone and unsupervised. PERIOD. IT's way too dangerous.
That's my biggest fear. The screwing around and messing up. That's crazy.
Exactly. Honestly I was a little nervous walking around the ship at night. It was Valentines morning around 2:30 and we were having sleep issues so we decided to go wander the ship and take some pictures. I wasn't too concerned inside the ship but once we were on the lido deck I got a tad nervous...some of the crew members were just plain CREEPY.
As far as the walkie talkies go I think there are some that use those as a safety net. While they may be good, I don't think someone that intends on harming someon else will wait for them to "check in." JMO.
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Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 08:16 pm | 6th Post |
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Livtojump wrote: TheWog wrote: Catnip wrote: I don't think a lot of parents really think about the dangers on a cruise ship! In addition
to underage drinking, there are PLENTY of dark, deserted areas on the ship which could prove dangerous for kids out there prowling alone at night.
2 years ago, I was out walking around the ship before I went to bed. It was just after midnight. I was walking up on the deck above the pool deck...........there was a crowd of pre-teens/teens hanging out in deck chairs laughing and horsing around. 2-3 of the boys grabbed a smaller kid and lifted him up on the rail like they were going to toss him overboard! Holy shit! They could have easily lost their grip on him, and overboard he would have gone! They just don't need to be out after midnight, alone and unsupervised. PERIOD. IT's way too dangerous.
That's my biggest fear. The screwing around and messing up. That's crazy.
Exactly. Honestly I was a little nervous walking around the ship at night. It was Valentines morning around 2:30 and we were having sleep issues so we decided to go wander the ship and take some pictures. I wasn't too concerned inside the ship but once we were on the lido deck I got a tad nervous...some of the crew members were just plain CREEPY.
As far as the walkie talkies go I think there are some that use those as a safety net. While they may be good, I don't think someone that intends on harming someon else will wait for them to "check in." JMO.
I agree Liv.. I just couldn't let my kinds run rampant on the ship like that.. If they weren't at the orgainized activities.. then they would be with me.. end of story..
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 06:27 pm | 7th Post |
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| It scares the crap out of me to see some of these kids wander the ship alone at all times of the day and night. We dont let our daughter out of our sight for one second, unless she is in camp carnival. And even then she is not to sign herself in or out.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 02:13 am | 8th Post |
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| Our kids are older and don't cruise (my pocketbook thanks them). People do really let down their guard on a cruise. I guess they don't realize that someone with bad intentions can get passage the same as everyone else.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 01:19 pm | 9th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: Our kids are older and don't cruise (my pocketbook thanks them). People do really let down their guard on a cruise. I guess they don't realize that someone with bad intentions can get passage the same as everyone else.
Yep.. and it only takes one on a cruise ship to cause havoc..
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 01:52 pm | 10th Post |
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I think a lot of parents don't even think or realize that a cruise ship is like a small town. There are thiefs and not-so-nice people everywhere. There are lots of dark, deserted places on the ships at night..........and lots of bad things that can happen to kids/teens that are out carousing by themselves late at night.
What I want to know is that....do they generally let their pre-teens go our wandering the streets of their town after midnight? 
Last edited on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 03:11 pm by Catnip
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hstrybuf wrote: I guess they don't realize that someone with bad intentions can get passage the same as everyone else.
It would be a candy store for a pedophile. And it will probably take a tragedy before parents wake up & realize that they need to keep an eye on their kids AT ALL TIMES.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 03:28 pm | 12th Post |
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lol930 wrote: hstrybuf wrote: I guess they don't realize that someone with bad intentions can get passage the same as everyone else.
It would be a candy store for a pedophile. And it will probably take a tragedy before parents wake up & realize that they need to keep an eye on their kids AT ALL TIMES.
They are our treasures.
You're exactly right! Just because you're "on vacation" shouldn't mean you let your guard down!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 02:03 pm | 13th Post |
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On our recent Elation cruise my daughter asked to take part in a scavenger hunt in the kids club, so we venture down to where it was taking place but it had already started..
I was surprised to learn that the kids were able to venture around the ship unsupervised and alone if they wanted...
Her and I did the hunt together and then was very surprised when one location they needed to scout out was the children's pool and as per instructions it was via the door at the back of the Cole Porter Lounge....
I was pertrurbed to say the least, this age group was 9-11 yr olds and mostly girls..
There are areas they should not be venturing into!
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 03:01 pm | 14th Post |
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| I would have been perturbed too! I knew about the kids being able to go on the hunt by themselves, but as you say, there are certain areas not open to the public view that shouldn't even be included.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2007 07:21 pm | 15th Post |
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We will be on our 4th family cruise this summer. My kids will be 12 and 9.
My kids are not allowed to go anywhere (even the 12 year old) on the ship with out me or my wife. We have seen plenty of kids roaming or running around by themselves. Many may consider us overprotective. We just think of it as keeping them safe. Lots of things can happen on a cruise ship.
When at sea, the kids have a choice to go to the Kids program or spend time with us. We always have a great time on board. That may mean time in the arcade, pool, playing games, etc... When in port, we pick things to do as a family.
We love to go on cruises with our kids. NCL has really been a good line for us.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25th, 2007 02:41 pm | 16th Post |
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For the idiot parent award.....go to Shoreguy's blog and look at the pic he posted today.
A parent (or adult of some sort), holding a small child either up on the ship's railing or close to it!!!!!
Now, what would happen if that person lost his/her grip on the child? He/she would either fall on the floor of the balcony and hurt himself, or fall overboard and most likely be killed!!
Then, they would sue the cruiseline for negligence!!!!!!! 
People that stupid shouldn't reproduce!
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Catnip wrote: For the idiot parent award.....go to Shoreguy's blog and look at the pic he posted today.
A parent (or adult of some sort), holding a small child either up on the ship's railing or close to it!!!!!
Now, what would happen if that person lost his/her grip on the child? He/she would either fall on the floor of the balcony and hurt himself, or fall overboard and most likely be killed!!
Then, they would sue the cruiseline for negligence!!!!!!!
People that stupid shouldn't reproduce!
I bet that that parent also put the kid in the pool with a swim diaper, told him to hold on to the side so they could take a picture of them in the water! 
What the Hell were they thinking on that balcony?
Maybe they were looking for 2 free cruises if something happened.
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jimswims wrote: Catnip wrote: For the idiot parent award.....go to Shoreguy's blog and look at the pic he posted today.
A parent (or adult of some sort), holding a small child either up on the ship's railing or close to it!!!!!
I bet that that parent also put the kid in the pool with a swim diaper, told him to hold on to the side so they could take a picture of them in the water!
What the Hell were they thinking on that balcony?
Maybe they were looking for 2 free cruises if something happened.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20th, 2007 08:46 pm | 19th Post |
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Unfortunately, I can tell you from personal experience that there are plenty of ways for kids to get in trouble onboard. Last cruise, my daughter and her 2 friends were offered alcohol by an 18 y/o (also a girl) who had smuggled it on. Can you imagine the possibilities???
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Yes, I agree there are plenty of ways kids can get into trouble. Dark, deserted sections of the ship that anypne could be waiting and lurking in.
What I want to know is why in the world (some) parents get on a cruise ship adn turn their children loose? Allow them to be out until all hours of the night on their own with no supervision? Very irresponsible of some parents. An accident, or worse, could happen in the twinkling of an eye.........
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| The parents of the 18 year old should be horsewhipped and so should the girl. We do our best to keep our kids safe but even on vacation there is someone waiting around the corner to tempt them to do things we've taught them is wrong. I blame the parents for not checking the girl's luggage. I wonder if they are such inattentive parents that they don't even know the girl drinks? Tempting underage kids with alcohol? Some lines will kick you off the ship if it's reported and I say good for them!
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Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 09:38 pm | 22nd Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: The parents of the 18 year old should be horsewhipped and so should the girl. We do our best to keep our kids safe but even on vacation there is someone waiting around the corner to tempt them to do things we've taught them is wrong. I blame the parents for not checking the girl's luggage. I wonder if they are such inattentive parents that they don't even know the girl drinks? Tempting underage kids with alcohol? Some lines will kick you off the ship if it's reported and I say good for them!
You know, its all about parental responsibility. We have cruised twice, once with our son 10 and with him 15. Quite a different experience, but similar cominalities. Before we left home we had age appropriate talks about what is going to be expected, tolerated and what freedoms he would have and not have on the ship.
The last time with him in the teen program and no sign in - sign out necessary the stakes were higher. First and most important I went and visited the staff of the teen center several times during the voyage. They got to know me and I as well got to know them. I also asked them about the behavior of the kids my son was befriending. I was amazed that not every teenage parent was in there talking to the staff.
Several times during the voyage, we made an attempt to sit and talk to other teens parents we saw during meals times or at the pool area. One of our rules was if you are traveling less than 5 level, walk it on the stairs. No elevators. If he was not in the teen room or a teen activity, he would come back to the room and leave a not as to where he was going and with whom (we required name and room number of all friends). We also require that two meals eveyday are eaten together as a family.
We had no problems, but I must admit, I still worry everytime. My kid is great, but we all remember those peer pessure years.
We have traveled much with our child and I am very grateful I was able to give him all those experiences. But, I must admit, many many parents think vacation time is time to forget they have children and others are there to care for them.
Just like anywhere in the world, it comes down to personal responsiblity at the parental level and childs level.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 10:47 pm | 23rd Post |
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nancyfancy40 wrote:
You know, its all about parental responsibility.
But, I must admit, many many parents think vacation time is time to forget they have children and others are there to care for them.
Just like anywhere in the world, it comes down to personal responsiblity at the parental level and childs level.
Nancy
I think you are a very wise parent. I think too many times these days, parents don't want to "parent". It's too much trouble. They don't want to discipline their children and take the time to teach them right from wrong. Too many want to be "their friend" and not their parent.
If more parents took a lesson from you, the world would be a much better place!!!
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