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Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 11:55 pm | 1st Post |
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| Can a passenger join the cruise once it leaves? There is a possibility my husband would be able to join us once the ship leaves Miami during the first week of a b2b and then stay through the second week rather than just joining us for the second week. The only catch is he would need to board say in St. Thomas. Is this ever possbile. Has anyone had experience with this type of situation?
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 02:28 am | 2nd Post |
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| That would be great if he could enjoy most of both legs of the cruise! This sounds a lot like the situation where a person misses the ship at embarkation and flies to the first port of call to board the ship. I can't think of any problems in him doing this as long as he has his boarding documents and passport.
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 04:44 pm | 3rd Post |
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| You would have to double check with St. Thomas because of the Jones Act. I am in no way an expert on this Act, but it has to do with US Ports and St. Thomas is considered a US Port. I'm not exactly sure. I do think he would be able to join, just not sure about the logistics of St. Thomas being the place to do it.
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 08:03 pm | 4th Post |
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| OMG! I totally forgot about that. Yes, do check out the requirements.
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Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 08:20 pm | 5th Post |
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| JC may have a better grasp on the Act and can give you more specifics.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 04:09 am | 6th Post |
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Geez, I don't know. With all this added security nowdays, I am really not sure. I guess the best thing would be to call your TA, or the cruise line directly and ask them. Of course, if you call the cruise line, you may get several different answers from several different people. I would probably call and ask to speak with a supervisor.
Please let us know what you find out!
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 01:14 pm | 7th Post |
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TheWog wrote: You would have to double check with St. Thomas because of the Jones Act. I am in no way an expert on this Act, but it has to do with US Ports and St. Thomas is considered a US Port. I'm not exactly sure. I do think he would be able to join, just not sure about the logistics of St. Thomas being the place to do it.
He will be getting on in a US port. I would assume that it would be the same as if he were departing from NY or FLL?
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 01:54 pm | 8th Post |
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Seahorse123 wrote: TheWog wrote: You would have to double check with St. Thomas because of the Jones Act. I am in no way an expert on this Act, but it has to do with US Ports and St. Thomas is considered a US Port. I'm not exactly sure. I do think he would be able to join, just not sure about the logistics of St. Thomas being the place to do it.
He will be getting on in a US port. I would assume that it would be the same as if he were departing from NY or FLL?
I was thinking that too Ann, but I just don't know for sure.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:37 pm | 9th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: Seahorse123 wrote: TheWog wrote: You would have to double check with St. Thomas because of the Jones Act. I am in no way an expert on this Act, but it has to do with US Ports and St. Thomas is considered a US Port. I'm not exactly sure. I do think he would be able to join, just not sure about the logistics of St. Thomas being the place to do it.
He will be getting on in a US port. I would assume that it would be the same as if he were departing from NY or FLL?
I was thinking that too Ann, but I just don't know for sure.
Thinking again He would have to be on the manifest from the beginning due to the security rules. I would not want a $7.00 an hour security person not letting him on. He could have been delayed in Miami and catch up with the ship in St. Thomas
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 02:41 pm | 10th Post |
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hstrybuf wrote: Seahorse123 wrote: TheWog wrote: You would have to double check with St. Thomas because of the Jones Act. I am in no way an expert on this Act, but it has to do with US Ports and St. Thomas is considered a US Port. I'm not exactly sure. I do think he would be able to join, just not sure about the logistics of St. Thomas being the place to do it.
He will be getting on in a US port. I would assume that it would be the same as if he were departing from NY or FLL?
I was thinking that too Ann, but I just don't know for sure.
Unless he gets off in St Thomas it may be a big problem. You need to check with someone who understands the Jone's Act better. The issue here is getting on in one US port and off in another US port that requires a stop at a "distant" foreign port. If he meets the ship in a foreign port it should be no issue. Same port round trip only requires any foreign port.
The closest "distant"foreign port to Miami I believe is Aruba.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 03:55 pm | 11th Post |
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| How would all this Jones act apply to a passenger that missed the ship due to a flight delay or something like that and then tired to catch up with it in another port? Maybe they have something worked out for those instances?? So maybe he can "miss his flight"??
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 04:06 pm | 12th Post |
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I really don`t think that the Jones Act applies here........he gets on the ship in St. Thomas,US Port.........he sails to foreign ports.....final destination, a US Port. What am I missing here?
I still think the issue will be security laws.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 04:16 pm | 13th Post |
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Seahorse123 wrote: I really don`t think that the Jones Act applies here........he gets on the ship in St. Thomas,US Port.........he sails to foreign ports.....final destination, a US Port. What am I missing here?
I still think the issue will be security laws.
You are missing the real reason for the stupid law. You can not transport passengers between two different US ports unless you are US flagged without hitting a distant port not any forgeign port. Round trip as posted only requires a foreign port
Do you see any cruises from NY to Miami with a stop in the Bahamas. This is the reason the repo cruises go to Aruba or S. America.
Nothing to do with security
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 05:02 pm | 14th Post |
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shoreguy wrote: Seahorse123 wrote: I really don`t think that the Jones Act applies here........he gets on the ship in St. Thomas,US Port.........he sails to foreign ports.....final destination, a US Port. What am I missing here?
I still think the issue will be security laws.
You are missing the real reason for the stupid law. You can not transport passengers between two different US ports unless you are US flagged without hitting a distant port not any forgeign port. Round trip as posted only requires a foreign port
Do you see any cruises from NY to Miami with a stop in the Bahamas. This is the reason the repo cruises go to Aruba or S. America.
Nothing to do with security
OK, thanks, but I think the security will still come to play here. Now NCL is going to F up the jones act more if they win sore loosers
Oh, OP.........I guess it won`t work.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 05:10 pm | 15th Post |
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Seahorse123 wrote: shoreguy wrote: Seahorse123 wrote: I really don`t think that the Jones Act applies here........he gets on the ship in St. Thomas,US Port.........he sails to foreign ports.....final destination, a US Port. What am I missing here?
I still think the issue will be security laws.
You are missing the real reason for the stupid law. You can not transport passengers between two different US ports unless you are US flagged without hitting a distant port not any forgeign port. Round trip as posted only requires a foreign port
Do you see any cruises from NY to Miami with a stop in the Bahamas. This is the reason the repo cruises go to Aruba or S. America.
Nothing to do with security
OK, thanks, but I think the security will still come to play here. Now NCL is going to F up the jones act more if they win sore loosers
Oh, OP.........I guess it won`t work.
NCL did open up a stupid can of worms. The port of Vancouver loves it but Seattle could be out of the Alaska cruise business.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 06:13 pm | 16th Post |
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We found out yesterday that Carnival will let my husband join us on the first leg of our b2b on the Valor in either St. Thomas or Nassau, or on the Glory in Cozumel. We have pretty much decided to do the Valor with him joining us in St. Thomas.
When I called our PVP at Carnival and asker her, she told us it could not be done because of the Jones Act. However, when the travel agent that I have been in contact with called her rep at Carnival she was told they would allow it and that would be clearly stipulated on our reservation. She told us that Carnival wanted us to be clear that the price would not change because he was not there for the first days. Pricing was never a question, we just wanted him to be able to join us. We now should be able to stay in the same cabin both weeks because we will have three in the cabin. I will be using this agent because she is willing to go the extra step.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 06:33 pm | 17th Post |
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Emma Cruiser wrote: We found out yesterday that Carnival will let my husband join us on the first leg of our b2b on the Valor in either St. Thomas or Nassau, or on the Glory in Cozumel. We have pretty much decided to do the Valor with him joining us in St. Thomas.
When I called our PVP at Carnival and asker her, she told us it could not be done because of the Jones Act. However, when the travel agent that I have been in contact with called her rep at Carnival she was told they would allow it and that would be clearly stipulated on our reservation. She told us that Carnival wanted us to be clear that the price would not change because he was not there for the first days. Pricing was never a question, we just wanted him to be able to join us. We now should be able to stay in the same cabin both weeks because we will have three in the cabin. I will be using this agent because she is willing to go the extra step.
Good Luck,
I don`t want to put a damper on this but the rep does not know everything and even if it is on your "reservation" it does not make it so. I do hope that your TA has errors and omissions insurance if it all goes sour.
It is looking for the "right answer" and believing it. I have in the travel business for over 20 years and I would not take the reps word as golden.......I would look farther.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 07:16 pm | 18th Post |
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What do you suggest that I do? Should I contact a supervisor at Carnival? I thought about the conflicting informationg, too.
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Who is JC that you refered to in your other post?
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Emma Cruiser wrote: Seahorse
What do you suggest that I do? Should I contact a supervisor at Carnival? I thought about the conflicting informationg, too.
The Wog
Who is JC that you refered to in your other post?
That would be xpcdoojk. He's a member here. He may not be around much on the weekends, but if you want his input, just send him a PM.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 07:37 pm | 20th Post |
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 Now I am frazzeled. I did not mean to send this again. I don't know who to believe. Any suggestions on getting the truth and nothing but the truth
Can a passenger join the cruise once it leaves? There is a possibility my husband would be able to join us once the ship leaves Miami during the first week of a b2b and then stay through the second week rather than just joining us for the second week.
We found out yesterday that Carnival will let my husband join us on the first leg of our b2b on the Valor in either St. Thomas or Nassau, or on the Glory in Cozumel. We have pretty much decided to do the Valor with him joining us in St. Thomas.
When I called our PVP at Carnival and asker her, she told us it could not be done because of the Jones Act. However, when the travel agent that I have been in contact with called her rep at Carnival she was told they would allow it and that would be clearly stipulated on our reservation. She told us that Carnival wanted us to be clear that the price would not change because he was not there for the first days. Pricing was never a question, we just wanted him to be able to join us. We now should be able to stay in the same cabin both weeks because we will have three in the cabin. I will be using this agent because she is willing to go the extra step.
Who should I believe? What do you suggest?
Thank you.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 08:09 pm | 21st Post |
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Another thought.
I was thinking maybe we should see if Carnival will make the flight arrangements and transfer from airport to ship for all of us? That way there should be no questions. My son and I would fly in to Miami together and they would do my husband's ticket to St. Thomas and arrange for him to get on the ship and then make arrangements for all of us to fly home together.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 08:18 pm | 22nd Post |
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| ok i am so sorry as you can see i am stressed it did not look like my post had gone through even after refreshing so i tried again and again. i feel so stupid i am sorry everyone.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 08:21 pm | 23rd Post |
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Emma Cruiser wrote: ok i am so sorry as you can see i am stressed it did not look like my post had gone through even after refreshing so i tried again and again. i feel so stupid i am sorry everyone.
Don't worry about it!! The boards are all doing weird things right now.... it took all of 3 seconds to clean up.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 12:49 pm | 24th Post |
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Emma Cruiser wrote: Seahorse
What do you suggest that I do? Should I contact a supervisor at Carnival? I thought about the conflicting informationg, too.
I would e-mail the operations manager of the ship. You should be able to get that info from the cruise line. If he says yes print out the e-mail to take with.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:15 pm | 25th Post |
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Seahorse123 wrote: Now NCL is going to F up the jones act more if they win sore loosers
I have to agree.........they are opening a huge Pandora's box.
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